AUGUST 21, 1996
MADE Meeting Minutes
E-mail Minutes from the August 21, 1996
Measurement and Analysis of Distribution Environments
meeting held at Apple Computers in Cupertino, CA
(NOTE: The hard copy of these minutes and attachments will be sent out next week
to everyone on my list. The goal is to eventually get away from the hard copy
distribution.)
Summary:
The history of the MADE (Measurement and Analysis of Distribution Environments)
task group and its previous focus was presented. The difficulties on trying to
measure a distribution environment was presented. Previous studies conducted by
companies were discussed. An open group discussion took place itemizing the
variables and issues surrounding the measurement of an environment. A
presentation was given about the International Safe Transit Association (ISTA)
and IoPP joint task groups for developing a centralized site for storing
environmental measurement data. The ISTA/IoPP task group would like any MADE
project data to be the trial run of their system. The meeting concluded by
determining that a limited project be conducted to obtain a better understanding
of the issues and variables. Committee were formed to develop the protocol of
such a limited study and will address: Test Plan, Equipment, Statistical
Significance, Analysis of Data, and Project Management.
Detailed minutes:
1.0 Welcome and Introductions
- Meeting Logistics - Paul Koning
- P2C2 Anti-Trust Statement - Perry Biancavilla (P2C2 chair)
- M.A.D.E. background - Perry Biancavilla
- 1991 task group established under P2C2
- No further involvement
- Floor Introductions - Everyone
(See 11.0 Attendance List)
2.0 Outline Discussion Topic - Paul Russell
- Company Specifications
How where they developed? Many based on FPL 22 Report (1979) Based on
a literature search of information collected between 1959 - 1977 using
spring mass recording devices.
- Companies HP Examined
Amdahl (1992) Storage Tech (1986)
Apple (1981) Tektronix (1991)
Compaq (1992) Wang (1989)
Dell (1993) Fedex (P2C2 data)
HP (1991) Seagate (P2C2 data)
IBM (1990) Digital (P2C2 data)
ISTA (1994) Micropolis (P2C2 data)
Kodak (1977) Encore (P2C2 data)
NCR (1988) Millipore (P2C2 data)
Sun Micro (1994)
- Drop Height Comparison Chart
- Measurement Variables
Controllable Un-controllable
Carriers (2) Weather
Weight Ranges (3) Carrier Personnel
Box Sizes (3) Road Conditions
Handling Icons (2) Conveyor Jams
Hand Holds (2)
- Variables Chart
Using only the controllable variables listed above it is
possible to have 72 different outcomes.
- Chaos Theory Chart (similar structure as variable chart)
- There is order within chaos and though we can't know precisely where
the end point is, we can define the boundary of that chaos.
- Today's Goal
1. Project Feasibility
Go - Document / Record / Analysis Report
No Go - Document Why
2. Major Groups Defined (Committee)
3. Participation Defined
General Member - copied on minutes and may contribute to
committee work.
Committee Member - definition / documentation.
Committee Head(s) - responsible for committee's work and meeting
deadlines.
- Rules
- IoPP Member?
- Committee Head(s)
Not directly involved with mfg. or service provider of the
committee topic.
- Majority Rule?
3.0 Presentations on Previous Studies
IBM / Mark Kerr study - Pete Berens
- See attachments
- Study
- Simplistic View
- Small Package environment
- Limited size and mass variables
- (7) handling points
- Recorder analysis algorithm
- Time
- Velocity Change
- Knowledge passed on
- Spend time on calibration
- Measurements must be tailored/specific - Lots of work
- (50) shipments per pack
- 2 1/2 - 3 years work
- Medium weights defy current logic and design specifications
- Real World Drop Height doesn't necessarily go down as weight goes up
- Interested in feasible extremes
- Interested in orientations
- Flat Drops NEVER happen
Statistical significance of previous attempts - Kevin Howard
- To get 1 failure and have an 80% confidence level in finding One
failure:
- if 10% damage rate, need 30 units
- if 1% damage rate, need 300 units
- if 0.1% damage rate, need 1500 units
Thompson / RCA efforts - Robert Lancaster
- Experience with diverse number of monitors and TV's
- 13- - Large Projection TV's
- 35# - 150#
- Traditional (10 Drop Test Sequence) is not relevant to real world
environment
- The offset Center of Gravity of a TV drastically influences handling
- Front Bottom Corner and Edges see the predominant number of impacts
- Humidity Data
- See attachment
4.0 Project Feasibility Discussion - Paul Russell
- Project variables and issues - White board exercise (see attachment)
Statistical Recording Devices Package Variables
- Sample size - Calibration - Bare product
- Confidence level - Analysis - Cellular phone
- Calibration - User setup (all details) - Portable devices
- Trigger level - Palletized
Analysis - Drop height range - Unpalletized
- Pre-Cal/Correlation - Time - Slip sheets
- Consistency - Day - Size/Ratio
- Interpretation - Accuracy - Weight
- Who? - Device correlation - Graphics
- Universities - Accelerometer type - Hand holes
- ISTA - Accel. freq. response - Center of Gravity
- Sanity checks - Impacto-Graph? - Shipping label
- Vs. previous studies - Downloading location
- Kerr - Transmitting Data - Real product
- Voss - Tie to shipping data - Black box
- Young - with notes
- FPL - Black box design
- Validation - (17+) potentially available
- Format (data)
- Histograms What to Measure?
- Drop height
Environmental Variables - Calculated, estimated
- Domestic - Temperature
- North America - Humidity
- International - Vibration
- European task group - Number of drops
- Developing EN std. - Calculated, estimated
- Air shipment - Orientation
- Rail shipment - Calculated, estimated
- LTL - Velocity Change
- Ocean - Acceleration
- Mixed express - Atmospheric pressure
- include hubs - Compression/Load
- Destination - Time & Date
- Weather - ESD
- Season
- Time/Date
- Clamp Trucks
- Home destination
- Most common
- Most hazardous (feasible)
Project Administration
- Cost/Financing
- Equip. mfg. donations
- Carriers cover shipping
- Gov't funding to Univ.
- Time frame
- Voting/Buy-in
- Generic Justification
- Damage reduction
- Package reduction
- Reporting/Documentation
- Definitions
5.0 Limited Project Study
- Learning Project with limited variables
- Strawdog (tiny) scope for further refinement
- 25# packaged product at a realistic density
- 2nd Day shipments (Federal Express & UPS)
- Control/Record Origin and Destinations
- Record acceleration
- (2) measuring devices
- Stock boxes
- Shipping label location on top
- Match data with tracking numbers
- Record Temperature
- Record Humidity
6.0 Next Step, Action items, Identify Committees, and Members - Paul Russell
- Committees
- Test Plan
- Develop the Test Plan with ALL details
- Project Administration
- Logistics, Process flow
- Generic Justification
- Equipment
- Recorder fixturing
- Data transfer
- Calibration
- Availability
- Statistical
- Sample size
- Variables
- Confidence level
- Analysis
- Report formats
- Validity checks
- Committee approaches
- Refer to White board Exercise and Strawdog scope
- Capture and define all issues/variables
- Committee members
(Contact Committee Chair or Paul Russell for involvement)
Test Plan
John Cornell (408)974-0755 - Chair
Perry Biancavilla (208)396-6977
Roy Bragadeste (619)673-2446
John Bridges (512)728-5471
Bill Kipp (408)655-6600
Darwin Drew (415)276-8600
Greg Hoshal (517)349-8487
Mark James (503) 685-3705
Gregory K. Kolles (606)232-7196
Robert Lancaster 317-587-4992
Joshua Larson (619)673-3244
Korte Lee (408)974-4170
Marcus Plato (716)422-9706
Rob Salinas (408) 522-6104
Scott Smith (510)277-2274
Frank Woodbery (713)514-7063
Project Administration
Paul Russell (415)857-7482 - Chair
John Cornell (408)974-0755
Robert Frank 805-525-4151
Kevin Howard (360)212-2801
Perry Biancavilla (208)396-6977
Mark James (503) 685-3705
Janice Fok (415)919-8548
Equipment
Matt Daum (208) 396-7726 - Chair
John Bridges (512)728-5471
Jack Dority (408)655-6600
Mark Doutt 408-439-4660
Greg Hoshal (517)349-8487
Kevin Howard (360)212-2801
Dave Huntley (408)655-6600
Bill Kipp (408)655-6600
Kevin Main (619)673-3135
Tom Neves (408)974-3580
Herb Schueneman (408)224-1300
Mike Williams (503)696-2633
Yongquan Zhou (901) 922-3579
Statistical
Mike Williams (503)696-2633 - Chair
David France (408)974-4255
Robert Frank 805-525-4151
John Lawrence, CPP (916)361-5605
Analysis
Jorge Marcondes (408) 924-3210 - Chair
Greg Hoshal (517)349-8487
Kevin Howard (360)212-2801
Dave Huntley (408)655-6600
Kevin Main (619)673-3135
Daniel C. Nicely 408-734-9724
Yongquan Zhou (901) 922-3579
- Schedule
- Minutes complete by 8/30
- Task Group Chair to contact their group members
- Task Group meetings (conference call) by 9/11/96
- Potential M.A.D.E. meeting at PackExpo
7.0 ISTA & IoPP Distribution Protocol - Dennis Young - Complimentary Effort
- IoPP/ISTA Joint Task Group on Transport Environment Measurement
- About the Joint Task Group
- Open / Free - Participation
- ISTA member companies
- IoPP member individuals
- Attendance not required
- Jack Dority - Task Group Chair
- Steve Pierce - ISTA Technical Committee Chair
- Joint Task Group Objectives
- Support and encourage transport environmental measurement and data access
- Develop collection guidelines
- Develop data format guidelines
- Allow multi-media data access
- Interface with constituents
- How does this fit with the M.A.D.E. effort
- Encourage M.A.D.E. to use guidelines - Encourage M.A.D.E. to share
information
- M.A.D.E. is potential "Poster Child"
- Future conference presentations - TransPack, ISTACon
- Background and Assumptions
- Environmental definition drives protective package development in part
- Better definition has benefits
- Cost reduction, Source reduction,...
- Focus on hazards
- Existing and New Data
- Trade Dress
- See systematic/non/systematic
- Test preparation, pre-calibration
- Caveat user
- Highly inclusive techniques
- The Steps to Hazard Measurement and Test
- Observation
- Measurement
- Analysis
- Specification
- Validation
- Information Categories
- Dynamic
- Drop, Shock, Vibration, Load
- Static
- Temperature, Relative Humidity, Atmospheric Pressure
- Systematic/non-systematic hazards
- Collection Guidelines
- Sensitive to DOE/Decision support
- Core characterization (min set)
- Describes the data set
- Dependent Variables
- Preferred measurements
- Drop Height, Acceleration, Velocity Change, Temperature
- Event characteristics
- Frequency range, Maximum level resolution, Sample rate, Measurement
time
- Independent Variables
- Preferred and possible list
- Package variables
- Transport variables
- Other variables
- Season, preconditions
- Information Formats
- Presentation Format
- Graphic characterization
- Summarizes data in perspective
- Able to draw inferences or generalities
- Supports lab specifications
- 2 types
- Descriptive, and Comparative
- Preferred Style - Dynamic
- Drop: Drop Height histogram
- Shock: Peak G / Velocity change histograms
- Vibration: PSD Spectra with time
- Load: Load/time history
- Preferred Style - Static
- Parameter/time history
- Analytical Format
- Tabular form
- Characterization of each selected data event (individual measurement)
- Use to design presentation format
- Suitable for data set linkage
- Preferred styles
- Tabular / Spreadsheet
- Rows by events
- Columns by variable
- Drop Height, Acceleration, Velocity Change, Temperature,
Relative Humidity
- Raw Format
- Original Data files
- Sorted or non-sorted
- Allows post-processing
- Preferred styles
- Current version software compatible
- Compatibility targets
- Presentation format
- Cross platform compatible
- Analytical format
- Cross platform compatible
- Raw Format
- Collection hardware dependent
- Maybe analysis hardware exclusive
- Media Format
Presentation (Hard Copy & FTP)
Analytical (Disk & FTP)
Raw (Disk & FTP)
- Timing Targets
- 1st Drafts
- Collection Guidelines: 9/20/96
- Information Formats: 9/27/96
- Sample Data: 10/4/96
- Discussion: 9/20 - 11/15/96
- 2nd Draft
- Draft: 11/15/96
- PackExpo meeting, details: TBA
8.0 ISTA Web site
- URL: www.ista.org
- New page for Guideline Drafts
- FTP site for data
- Development site for Test Guidelines
9.0 FYI
- IoPP simulation Testing Seminar
- 11/14 - 15/96
- Chicago PackExpo
- More details to come
10.0 Wrap-Up
- M.A.D.E. contribution
- International Possibilities
- Open Information Access
11.0 Attendance List
Phil Abel - Amdahl
Dennis Amato - United Parcel Service
Pete Berends - IBM
Donald Betando - San Jose State University
Perry Biancavilla - Hewlett-Packard Company
Roy Bragadeste - Sony Corporation of America
John Bridges - Dell Computer Corp.
Tom Carmichael - Intel
Don Clugston - Hewlett-Packard
Scott Cordes - Tenneco Packaging
John Cornell - Apple Computer Inc.
Matt Daum - Hewlett-Packard Company
Jack Dority - Lansmont - Ryan Ranch Research
Mark Doutt - Watkins-Johnson Co.
Darwin Drew - Tharco
Frida Droorian - Lam Research
Janice Fok - Hewlett-Packard
David France - Apple Computer Inc.
Robert Frank - Lansmont - Technical Services
Robert D. Gordon - United Parcel Service Dave Heasty - Intel
Greg Hoshal - IST
Kevin Howard - Hewlett-Packard
Dave Huntley - Lansmont - Ryan Ranch Research
Mark James - Tektronix Inc.
Bill Kipp - Lansmont - Ryan Ranch Research
Gregory K. Kolles - Lexmark International
Paul Koning - Apple Computer Inc.
Chip Krieg - Apple Computer Inc.
Robert Lancaster - Thomson Consumer Electronics
Joshua Larson - Sony Corporation of America
John Lawrence, CPP - Federal Express Coporation
Korte Lee - Apple Computer Inc.
David Leinberger - Tektronix Inc.
Tom Magee - Cisco Systems
Kevin Main - Sony Corporation of America
Jorge Marcondes - San Jose State University Thom McNabb - United Parcel Service
Tom Neves - Apple Computer Inc.
Daniel C. Nicely - Lansmont Corporation
Allen Perry - IBM
Marcus Plato - Xerox Corporation
Dale Root - Lansmont - Ryan Ranch Research
Paul Russell - Hewlett-Packard
Rob Salinas - Ventritex
Herb Schueneman - Westpak
Scott Smith - United Parcel Service
John Thomas - Industrial Boxboard Corp
David Lee Traver - Sony Electronics
Mike Williams - Intel
Frank Woodbery - Compaq
Dennis Young - Dennis Young & Assoc.
Yongquan Zhou - Federal Express Coporation
Linda Zupic - Silicon Graphics Computer Systems
Created: Friday, August 30, 1996, 4:05:36 PM Last Updated: Friday, August 30, 1996,
4:05:36 PM